Sunday, September 28, 2008

12 comments:

ambrosiajr said...

This is from an Obama campaign event in Pennsylvania in early September....

"I believe in the Second Amendment, and if you are a law-abiding gun owner you have nothing to fear from an Obama administration," Obama said. "This has been peddled again and again. Here's what I believe: The Second Amendment is an indvidual right. . . people have the right to bear arms. But I also believe there is nothing wrong with some common-sense gun safety measures."

More Rovian lies by the Republicans. From the "lets just lie" republican campaign playbook.

Barry Goldwater said...

Actions speak louder than words.

In no recent candidate is this more true than Obama.

Anonymous said...

Look at the last part of the quote Rick. Unfortunately Obama thinks restrictions on hunting rifles, banning hand guns, and the previous DC hand gun ban are "common sense gun safety measures." His "common sense gun safety measures" would eventualy effectively ban guns and override the 2nd Amendment.

ambrosiajr said...

Oh, yes...every hunter needs an AK-47 or Uzi to go shooting deer with. Its all the rage.

Gimme a break. There are already controls on what types of guns you can buy and what type of ammo you can buy. (can you say hollow point?). No one is trying to take away your right to go out and kill little animals. Its just another Rovian scare tactic. The politics of fear all over again.

Anonymous said...

You want politics of fear? How about the basic Democrat tenet that without the government to give you things, you will not be able to make it in this country? The fact is, the "change" that Obama is promising is radical and contrary to everything this country stands for and what's worse, contrary to everything that made it great. When you have a candidate who surrounds himself with America-haters and supports policies that would be embraced by Marx and Engels, you have a real danger to the country.

ambrosiajr said...

Oh, you mean like the socialist program of a Wall Street bailout?

Stop trying to scare yourself...I think we'll survive once Obama gets in.

Aimlesswriter said...

Can you post exactly where you got the information that Obama is taking guns away from hunters?
There are hunters in my family so I'd really like to see where this came from.

Art Gallagher said...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,427347,00.html

Aimlesswriter said...

Here's the truth from factcheck.org:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html

Nobody is messing with hunters.

Art Gallagher said...

The FoxNews article counters the factcheck article.

I guess it depends on which Obama you believe.

Aimlesswriter said...

Perhaps that's because Fox news is a Republican station?
Is there any other documentation besides Fox?

ESedler said...

The problem with factcheck is that is makes an assumption based off of what Senator Obama said, rather than his past votes.

That's kind of silly to go off what someone says during campaign season, rather than their votes.

Their was another source I saw on this - fact checking factcheck, but it was done by the national review (just as partisan as fox)
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MmQ4ZTRiZGNkMTIwNTczODI5NjZlZDE0MjMyNDcxNDA=

The NRA is going by votes of Obama, mostly when he was a state senator in illinois. It's definately more credible than just going by what he says.

If you check this link:
http://www.gunbanobama.com/Default.aspx?NavGuid=530ecfa4-ae4e-4819-97e6-892463d99f08

You'll see that the sources (shown on the bottom) are mostly Illinois State Senate votes.

As much as I don't like to be one crying bias, it seems that fact check needs someone to fact check it sometimes. The CNN political ticker has often used it to attack McCain, although if you go to the site they do go against some of the things Obama says it as well.